Originally by: CCP Nozh

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The new version of the Citadel Torpedo follows the same trend as other unguided missiles. The explosion velocity is slightly higher than that of the Citadel Cruise Missiles (or 2250) which means target painters will have to be utilized in many situations to achieve full damage potential. They do considerably more damage than their missile counterparts, with reduced range and velocity.

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Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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OK then CCP Hammerhead, I would like your *teams* decision making process on returning the Naglfar to a useless split weaponed piece of crap after only one patch cycle of being fixed? Why could the bonuses have not been adjusted but LEFT ON THE GUNS? I'm really trying to understand the rationale here when even CCP have admitted split weapons systems are fail hence the change to the Nag to double gun bonuses in the first place.

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Originally by: Lucas Tigh

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At least the Moros was put back to TQ values a while ago.

Right guys?

Guys?

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Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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I am going to post this on every page til I get an answer.

Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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OK then CCP Hammerhead, I would like your *teams* decision making process on returning the Naglfar to a useless split weaponed piece of crap after only one patch cycle of being fixed? Why could the bonuses have not been adjusted but LEFT ON THE GUNS? I'm really trying to understand the rationale here when even CCP have admitted split weapons systems are fail hence the change to the Nag to double gun bonuses in the first place.

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Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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I am going to post this on every page til I get an answer.

Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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OK then CCP Hammerhead, I would like your *teams* decision making process on returning the Naglfar to a useless split weaponed piece of crap after only one patch cycle of being fixed? Why could the bonuses have not been adjusted but LEFT ON THE GUNS? I'm really trying to understand the rationale here when even CCP have admitted split weapons systems are fail hence the change to the Nag to double gun bonuses in the first place.

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Originally by: Merin Ryskin

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Originally by: CCP Hammer

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First, IÆd like to say that a single developer cannot come in and unilaterally change everything with no oversight. People are spewing a lot of hate at CCP Nozh but instead itÆs a case of shooting the messenger. He is just doing his job trying to improve the game and explain the reasoning for why changes were made.

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If you don't want us to shoot your messenger, here's an idea: don't pick a messenger who is so hilariously clueless about the subject that he makes stupid posts about things like target painting capital ships or fitting 5x DCUs on motherships.

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We werenÆt entirely happy with the direction and balancing of MOMs before development of Dominion began. Even during the SISI tests they still werenÆt falling into place for us. They were potentially too powerful and that would have resulted in a small minority having a lot of fun at the cost of thousands who would be instapopped in 0.0. So we tried to tune them again to a point we felt was balanced, but then the role of the ships wasnÆt clear once we started to lower the damage. Instead, they started to blur with dreads and carriers.

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See, now was that hard? Was there some reason that you could not have said this from the beginning?


Also, the idea that the earlier changes were only good for a small minority is just silly. Look at the people posting here. Notice that you have a pretty good selection of 0.0 alliances, including hated enemies agreeing on what direction things should go. This is not just a few mothership pilots looking for their new "I win" button, this is near-unanimous agreement between the people who actually play the game in 0.0 about how 0.0 should be.


And besides that, I fail to see how the mothership changes would lead to insta-popping. Are you familiar with the stats on fighter bombers, especially the low precision of their missiles? Against everything but capital ships, mothership performance would remain exactly the same, and even against capital ships, their damage output is merely better than dreads (as appropriate for a 15 billion ISK ship), not enough to insta-kill capitals.

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Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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I am going to post this on every page til I get an answer.

Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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OK then CCP Hammerhead, I would like your *teams* decision making process on returning the Naglfar to a useless split weaponed piece of crap after only one patch cycle of being fixed? Why could the bonuses have not been adjusted but LEFT ON THE GUNS? I'm really trying to understand the rationale here when even CCP have admitted split weapons systems are fail hence the change to the Nag to double gun bonuses in the first place.

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Originally by: Sardonis Tel'Arakus

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Hey, how do I go about getting a refund? I reactivated a 6 month sub solely for dominion, and you're undoing what I reactivated for. Choose your next words carefully.

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Originally by: Isil Rahsen

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I am going to post this on every page til I get an answer.

OK then CCP Hammerhead, I would like your *teams* decision making process on returning the Naglfar to a useless split weaponed piece of crap after only one patch cycle of being fixed? Why could the bonuses have not been adjusted but LEFT ON THE GUNS? I'm really trying to understand the rationale here when even CCP have admitted split weapons systems are fail hence the change to the Nag to double gun bonuses in the first place.

Post [1368] again. Atleast 176 posts deleted so far according to eve-search.

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Originally by: stockeater

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As a moros pilot I'm kinda glad that supercarriers won't be all powerful dread killers yet, and quite happy to hear tracking is better in siege mode. Now I might just be able to hit a sniper bs in siege.
Just worried what use my nearly 2 bill ship will have- unless the sov bunkers are ridiculously hard I get the feeling that dreads are a ship class that will die out.

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Originally by: Kenpachi Viktor

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Edited by: Kenpachi Viktor on 21/11/2009 01:47:52

Originally by: CCP Nozh

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Every ship needs its niche, a specialized role at which it excels without too much overlap from its closest relatives.
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We aren't happier with the direction we were taking them as anti-capital Supercarriers.
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The Titans primary value should be as a fleet's logistical backbone.

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The biggest reason I see as why this is not working is:

You have your roles mixed up for the Supercapitals

The Titan does OMGWTFBBQ damage.
The Mothership (Supercarrier) has RR and gang links

And you were trying to have the Mom as anti cap, and the Titan as logistics?!?

Make the Titan the anti-capital supercapital.

Make the Supercarrier the fleet's logistical backbone. Flagship anyone?



Swap the fleet bonus from the Titan, to the Supercarrier.
Buff their HP to what they were going to be under Abathur's changes
Keep the clone vat on the Supercarrier.
Keep the Fighter numbers the same, but limit the bombers via bandwidth.
Increase the damage output of titans non DD weaponds; at lest 1.5 times a dread, before you add on the DD's damage.
Increase the signature radius on both so there is minimal damage reduction on them, as they can't be target painted. (How would anything not get a good hit on something so massively huge?)
A new set of gang-assist modules only fit-able to Supercariers, one of each type: Armored; Information; Siege; & Skirmish
Etc.

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